For reasons that will soon become apparent (yes, that's a teaser),
Matt and I wanted to figure out how heavy Camarasaurus was.
This is the story of how I almost completely badgered up part of that
problem. I am publishing it as a cautionary tale because I am very
secure and don't mind everyone knowing that I'm an idiot.
Those who paid close attention to my recent paper on
Brachiosaurus and Giraffatitan will remember that when
I estimated their mass using Graphic Double Integration (Taylor 2009:
802-804) I listed separately the volumes of the head, neck, forelimbs,
hindlimbs, torso and tail of each taxon. In Giraffatitan, the
torso accounted for 71% of the total volume (20588 of 29171 litres), and
in Brachiosaurus, 74% (26469 of 35860 litres), so it's apparent
that torso volume hugely dominates that of the whole animal. In the
giant balloon-model Giraffatitan of Gunga et al.'s (1995, 1999)
estimates, the torso accounted for 74% of volume (55120 of 74420 litres)
so even though their fleshing out of the skeleton was morbidly obese,
the relative importance of the torso came out roughly the same.
Finally, Gunga et al'.s (2008) revised, less bloated, model of the same
Giraffatitan had the torso contributing 68% of volume (32400 of
47600 litres). So far as I know, these are all of the published
accounts that give the volumes of separate parts of a sauropod body, but
if there are any more, please tell me in the comments! (Odd that they
should all be for brachiosaurids.)
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3D "slim" version of reconstruction of the "Brachiosaurus" brancai
mounted and exhibited at the Museum of Natural History in Berlin
(Germany). A. Side view, upper panel; B. top view, lower panel. The
cross in the figure of upper panel indicates the calculated center of
gravity. (Gunga et al. 2008: figure 2)
So it's evident that, in brachiosaurs at least, the torso accounts
for about 70% total body volume, and therefore for about that much of
the total mass. (The distribution of penumaticity means that it's
denser than the neck and less dense than the limbs, so that its density
is probably reasonably close to the average of the whole animal.)
Now here's the problem. How fat is the sauropod? Look at the
top-view of Giraffatitan in the Gunga et al. figure above: it's
easy to imagine that the torso could be say 20% narrower from side to
side, or 20% broader. Those changes to breadth would affect volume in
direct proportion, which would mean (if the torso is 70% of the whole
animal) a change in total body volume of 14% either way. Significant
stuff.
So what do we know about the torso breadth in sauropods? It
obviously dependant primarily on the orientation of the ribs and their
articulation to the dorsal vertebrae. And what do we know about
that?
Nothing.
Well, OK, I am over-simplifying a little. It's been mentioned in
passing in a few papers, but it's never been discussed in any detail in
a published paper that I know of. (There's a Masters thesis out there
that starts to grapple with the subject, but I don't know whether I
should talk about that while it's still being prepared for publication,
so I won't say anything more.) The most important published
contribution is more than a century old — Holland's (1910) smackdown of
Tornier's and Hay's comical Diplodocus postures, which included
the following cross-sections of the torsos of several animals at the
seventh dorsal vertebra:
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(This figure previously appeared on SV-POW! in Matt's post, Sauropods
were tacos, not corn dogs, which as far as I am aware is the only
existing non-technical treatment of sauropod torso-shape.)
Holland unfortunately did not discuss the torso shape that he
illustrated, merely asserting it. Presumably it is based on the mounted
skeleton of the Diplodocus carnegii holotype CM 84, which is at
the Carnegie Museum in Pittsburgh, where Holland was based. I have no
reason to doubt it; just noting that it wasn't discussed.
All right then — what about Camarasaurus? I think it's fair
to say that it's generally considered to be fairly rotund among
sauropods, as for example this skeletal reconstruction by Greg Paul
shows:
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Camarasaurus lentus skeletal reconstruction, in dorsal and right
lateral views. (Paul 2010:197)
Measuring off the height and width of the torso at the seventh dorsal
vertebra, using GIMP, I find that they are 341 and 292 pixels
respectively, so that the eccentricity is 341/292 = 1.17. This compares
with 1760/916 = 1.92 for Holland's Diplodocus above, so if both
figures are accurate, then Camarasaurus is much fatter than
Diplodocus.
But is Paul's Camarasaurus ribcage right? To answer that, I
went back to my all-time favourite sauropod paper, Osborn and Mook's
(1921) epic descriptive monograph of Camarasaurus (and Cope's
other sauropods). I knew that this awesomely comprehensive piece of
work would include plates illustrating the ribs; and in fact there are
four plates that each illustrate a complete set of dorsal ribs
(although the associations are doubtful). Here they all are:
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Left dorsal ribs of Camarasaurus (Osborn and Mook 1921:pl.
LXXVIII)
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Left dorsal ribs of Camarasaurus (Osborn and Mook 1921:pl. LXXIX)
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Left dorsal ribs of Camarasaurus (Osborn and Mook 1921:pl. LXXX)
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Left dorsal ribs of Camarasaurus (Osborn and Mook 1921:pl. LXXXI)
But hang on a minute — what do you get if you articulate these ribs
with the dorsal vertebrae? Osborn and Mook also provided four plates of
sequences of dorsal vertebrae, and the best D7 of the four they
illustrate is probably the one from plate LXX. And of the four 7th
ribs illustrated above, the best preserved is from plate LXXIX. So I
GIMPed them together, rotated the ribs to fit as best I could and …
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What on earth?!
I spent a bit of time last night feeling everything from revulsion to
excitement about this bizarre vertebra-and-rib combination. Until I
happened to look again Osborn and Mook — earlier on, in the body of the
paper, in the section about the ribs. And here's what I saw:
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(Note that this is the vertebra and ribs at D4, not D7; but that's
close enough that there's no way there could be a transition across
three vertebrae like the change between this and the horrible sight that
I presented above.)
What's going on here? In the plates above, the ribs do not curve
inwards as in this cross-section: they are mostly straight, and in many
case seem to curve negatively — away from the torso. So why do
O&M draw the ribs in this position that looks perfectly
reasonable?
And figure 70, a few pages earlier, makes things even weirder: it
clearly shows a pair of ribs curving medially, as you'd expect them
to:
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So why do these ribs look so totally different from those in the
plates above?
I'll give you a moment to think about that before I tell you the
answer.
Seriously, think about it for yourself. While you're turning it over
in your mind, here is a picture of the beautiful Lego kit #10198, the
Blockade Runner from the original Star Wars movie. (I deeply
admire the photography here: clear as a bell.)
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OK, welcome back.
Got it? I bet most of you have.
The answer was right there in figure 71:
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Left rib of Camarasaurus supremus Cope. Rib 4 (Amer. Mus. Cope Coll. No.
5761/R-A-24). (A) direct external view when placed as in position in the
body; (B) direct anterior when placed as in position in the body. Capit.
capitulum; Sh. shaft; Tub. tuberculum. Reconstructed view, portion in
outline.
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Osborn and Mook 1921:fig. 71. Left rib of Camarasaurus
supremus Cope. Rib 4 (Amer. Mus. Cope Coll. No. 5761/R-A-24). (A)
direct external view when placed as in position in the body; (B) direct
anterior when placed as in position in the body. Capit. capitulum; Sh.
shaft; Tub. tuberculum. Reconstructed view, portion in outline.
And, my word, isn't it embarrassingly obvious once you see it? I'd
been blithely assuming that the ribs in O&M's plates were
illustrated in anterior view, with the capitula (which articulate with
the parapophyses) located more medially, as well as more ventrally, than
the tubercula (which articulate with the diapophyses). But no: as in
fact the captions of the plates state perfectly clearly — if I'd only
had the wits to read them — the ribs are shown in "external" (i.e.
lateral) view. Although it's true that the capitula in life would
indeed have been more medially positioned than the tubercula, it's also
true that they were more anteriorly positioned, and that's what
the plates show at the rib heads. And the curvature that I'd been
stupidly interpreting as outward, away from the midline, is in fact
posteriorly directed: the ribs are "swept back". The ventral portions
of the ribs also curve medially, away from the viewer and into the page
… but of course you can't see that in the plates.
The important truth — and if you take away nothing else from this
post, take this — is that I am dumb bones are complex
three-dimensional objects, and it's impossible to fully understand their
shape from single-view illustrations. It's for this reason
that I make an effort, when I can, to illustrate complex bones from all
cardinal directions — in particular, with the Archbishop bones, as for
example "Cervical S" in the Brachiosaurus
coracoid
post.
Because ribs, in particular, are such complex shapes — because their
curvature is so unpredictable, and because their articulation with the
dorsal vertebrae is via two points which are located differently on
successive vertebrae, and because this articulation still allows a
degree of freedom of movement — orthogonal views, even from all cardinal
directions, are of limited value. Compositing figures will give
misleading results … as demonstrated above. PhotoShop is no more use
here. Fly, you fools!
Paradoxically, our best source of information on the shapes of
saurpod torsos is: mounted skeletons. I say "paradoxically" because
we've all grown used to the idea that mounts are not much use to us as
scientists, and are really there only as objects of awe. As Brian
Curtice once said, "A mounted skeleton is not science. It's art. Its
purpose is to entertain the public, not to be a scientifically accurate
specimen". In many respects, that's true — especially in skeletons like
that of the "Brontosaurus" holotype, YPM 1980, where the bones
are restored with, and in some cases encased in, plaster so you can't
tell what's what. But until digital scanning and modelling make some
big steps forward, actual mounted skeletons are the best reference we
have for the complex articulations of ribs.
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image-caption="Giraffatitan brancai paralectotype HMN SII, composite
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Giraffatitan brancai paralectotype HMN SII, composite mounted
skeleton, torso in left posteroventrolateral view (photograph by Mike
Taylor)
And I finish this very long (sorry!) post with yet another note of
caution. Ribs are long and thin and very prone to damage and
distortion. It's rare to find complete sauropod ribs (look closely at
the O&M plates above for evidence), but even when we do, we
shouldn't be quick to assume that the shape in which they are preserved
is necessarily the same as the shape they had in life. (If you doubt
this, take another look at rib #6 in the third of the four O&M
plates above.) And as if that weren't enough to discourage us, we
should also remember that the vertebra-rib joints would have involved a
lot of cartilage, and we don't know its extent or shape.
So bearing in mind the complicated 3D shape of ribs and of dorsal
vertebrae, the tendency for both to distort during and after
fossilisation, and the complex and imperfectly known nature of the
joints between them, I think that maybe I wasn't too far wrong earlier
when I said that what we know about sauropod torso shape is:
nothing.
It's a sobering thought.
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